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	==Introduction==		==Introduction==
	This document is intended to complement the SCA Society Siege combat rules and should be read when planning for siege combat in the Kingdom of Lochac.		This document is intended to complement the SCA Society Siege combat rules and should be read when planning for siege combat in the Kingdom of Lochac.

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Angele: /* Sapping / Undermining */

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Sapping / Undermining

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	For a more basic version of this scenario, simply lay out a siege engine against wall and commence the battle at that point. To soundly represent the attackers securing a solid bridgehead on the defenders walls, I recommend having fixed location flags within the defensive lines (perhaps 3) and the defenders need to secure at least 2 flags to win. Could be run as a timed event, 0 flags = Defenders victory, 1 flag capture = draw (fight for a further several minutes), 2 flags captured attackers victory.		For a more basic version of this scenario, simply lay out a siege engine against wall and commence the battle at that point. To soundly represent the attackers securing a solid bridgehead on the defenders walls, I recommend having fixed location flags within the defensive lines (perhaps 3) and the defenders need to secure at least 2 flags to win. Could be run as a timed event, 0 flags = Defenders victory, 1 flag capture = draw (fight for a further several minutes), 2 flags captured attackers victory.
	===Sapping / Undermining===		===Sapping / Undermining===
	Sapping describes the construction of tunnels to mine underneath the walls and other defences of a defensive location such as a fort. Many such attacks would have been started within sight of the defenders who had a variety of strategies they could employ. For the purposes allowed the concept has been simplified.		[[File:sapping.png \|right\|350px]]Sapping describes the construction of tunnels to mine underneath the walls and other defences of a defensive location such as a fort. Many such attacks would have been started within sight of the defenders who had a variety of strategies they could employ. For the purposes allowed the concept has been simplified.
	For the purposes of an SCA battle, it would be best to use this as an option available to the attackers through-out the series or day's battles, with a brief summary of how it will be executed at the start of the day.		For the purposes of an SCA battle, it would be best to use this as an option available to the attackers through-out the series or day's battles, with a brief summary of how it will be executed at the start of the day.

Angele: /* Blowing open the gates */

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Blowing open the gates

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	Each "weak point" section of wall is represented by a combatant and/or marshal next to marked wall section with a fixed (or random) number of lives (say 10). Each time the combatant (or the delineated wall section) is hit, the countdown continues. When 0 is reached, a hold is called and the wall section is opened (potentially haybale wall gets collapsed or section of fabric wall is removed as relevant to the scenario.		Each "weak point" section of wall is represented by a combatant and/or marshal next to marked wall section with a fixed (or random) number of lives (say 10). Each time the combatant (or the delineated wall section) is hit, the countdown continues. When 0 is reached, a hold is called and the wall section is opened (potentially haybale wall gets collapsed or section of fabric wall is removed as relevant to the scenario.
	===Blowing open the gates===		===Blowing open the gates===
	Gates are closed and defended, you have to run a petard and mount it in place to open the gates, you then need to take the castle.		[[File:blowgates.png \|right\|250px]]Gates are closed and defended, you have to run a petard and mount it in place to open the gates, you then need to take the castle.
	A petard was a bell or funnel shaped metal enclosure, filled with gunpowder which was braced hard against the door through which entrance was required. Fuse was lit and the petard fired, hopefully blowing a hole in the door.		A petard was a bell or funnel shaped metal enclosure, filled with gunpowder which was braced hard against the door through which entrance was required. Fuse was lit and the petard fired, hopefully blowing a hole in the door.
	Once the petard is mounted in place, the marshal can count several seconds and then call hold. Anyone directly in front or behind the petard can be called dead (either from the explosion or from the petard becoming a missile in away from the door). A rough access way should then be made in the "door" of the fort (potentially opening an existing door in the fort structure or moving haybales, etc). Kill range should be agreed prior to war.		Once the petard is mounted in place, the marshal can count several seconds and then call hold. Anyone directly in front or behind the petard can be called dead (either from the explosion or from the petard becoming a missile in away from the door). A rough access way should then be made in the "door" of the fort (potentially opening an existing door in the fort structure or moving haybales, etc). Kill range should be agreed prior to war.

	===Battering ram===		===Battering ram===
	This scenario uses an item representing a battering ram - a basic example would be a heavy log with 4 ropes attached, allowing four fighters to carry it to the gate or wall of the "fort" which has been identified as vulnerable to siege attack.		This scenario uses an item representing a battering ram - a basic example would be a heavy log with 4 ropes attached, allowing four fighters to carry it to the gate or wall of the "fort" which has been identified as vulnerable to siege attack.

Angele: /* In-direct fire */

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In-direct fire

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	===In-direct fire===		===In-direct fire===
	These are siege engines that are designed to fire ammunition that comes down on top of the enemy (or to be fired over walls, etc).		These are siege engines that are designed to fire ammunition that comes down on top of the enemy (or to be fired over walls, etc).
			[[File:trebuchet.png \|right\|150px]]
	;Trebuchet		;Trebuchet
	:Powered by gravity, this formidable weapon utilises the long end of an arm on a pivot which was hauled or winched down and then released, allowing a heavy counterweight at the short opposite end of the arm to drop and swing the long end upward through a vertical arc.		:Powered by gravity, this formidable weapon utilises the long end of an arm on a pivot which was hauled or winched down and then released, allowing a heavy counterweight at the short opposite end of the arm to drop and swing the long end upward through a vertical arc.
			[[File:mortar.png \|right\|150px]]
	;Mortar (Cannon) and Rockets		;Mortar (Cannon) and Rockets
	:A device designed to deliver most commonly a rock or steel ball via an explosive charge from a propellent (black powder or equivalent), aimed indirectly up into the air.		:A device designed to deliver most commonly a rock or steel ball via an explosive charge from a propellent (black powder or equivalent), aimed indirectly up into the air.
	:Note that cannons or replicas of cannons are currently banned in the Society rules.		:Note that cannons or replicas of cannons are currently banned in the Society rules.
	:A rocket (for the purpose of this discussion) is a similar device that is not fired out of a tube. There may be some leeway to use these under SCA rules and/or local laws, although the propulsion may not use compressed or ignited gases or liquids or combusting materials as outlined in the SCA Siege rules.		:A rocket (for the purpose of this discussion) is a similar device that is not fired out of a tube. There may be some leeway to use these under SCA rules and/or local laws, although the propulsion may not use compressed or ignited gases or liquids or combusting materials as outlined in the SCA Siege rules.[[File:rockets.png \|right\|150px]]

	==Alternative siege style scenarios==		==Alternative siege style scenarios==

Angele: /* Direct fire */

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Direct fire

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	===Direct fire===		===Direct fire===
	These are siege engines that are aimed directly at the target. Common examples include:		These are siege engines that are aimed directly at the target. Common examples include:
	~~;Ballista~~[[File:ballista.png \|150px~~\|frame~~]]		[[File:ballista.png \|right\|150px]]
			;Ballista
	:A device designed to deliver a javelin or rock style ammunition utilising a bow like design. Whilst there are design differences, in Australia we have confirmed that the various police departments consider these to be an oversized crossbow and are covered by the relevant legislation. A torsion ballista (each arm separately tensioned) will be considered the same, despite the construction differences and variance in physics utilised to operate these devices.		:A device designed to deliver a javelin or rock style ammunition utilising a bow like design. Whilst there are design differences, in Australia we have confirmed that the various police departments consider these to be an oversized crossbow and are covered by the relevant legislation. A torsion ballista (each arm separately tensioned) will be considered the same, despite the construction differences and variance in physics utilised to operate these devices.
	~~;Cannon~~[[File:cannon.png \|150px~~\| frame~~]]		[[File:cannon.png \|right\| 150px ]]
			;Cannon
	:A device designed to deliver most commonly a rock or steel ball via an explosive charge from a propellent (black powder or equivalent) aimed directly at the "enemy". It should be noted that cannons or replicas of cannons are currently banned in the Society rules.		:A device designed to deliver most commonly a rock or steel ball via an explosive charge from a propellent (black powder or equivalent) aimed directly at the "enemy". It should be noted that cannons or replicas of cannons are currently banned in the Society rules.
	~~;Catapult~~[[File:catapult.png \|150px~~\| frame~~]]		[[File:catapult.png \|right\| 150px]]
			;Catapult
	:A device for forcefully propelling stones, spears, or other projectiles, by means of a wooden arm bent under tension and suddenly released to fire (see image) except for a counterweighted variation (see trebuchet below).		:A device for forcefully propelling stones, spears, or other projectiles, by means of a wooden arm bent under tension and suddenly released to fire (see image) except for a counterweighted variation (see trebuchet below).

Angele: /* Direct fire */

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Direct fire

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	===Direct fire===		===Direct fire===
	These are siege engines that are aimed directly at the target. Common examples include:		These are siege engines that are aimed directly at the target. Common examples include:
	;Ballista		;Ballista[[File:ballista.png \|150px\|frame]]
	:A device designed to deliver a javelin or rock style ammunition utilising a bow like design. Whilst there are design differences, in Australia we have confirmed that the various police departments consider these to be an oversized crossbow and are covered by the relevant legislation. A torsion ballista (each arm separately tensioned) will be considered the same, despite the construction differences and variance in physics utilised to operate these devices.		:A device designed to deliver a javelin or rock style ammunition utilising a bow like design. Whilst there are design differences, in Australia we have confirmed that the various police departments consider these to be an oversized crossbow and are covered by the relevant legislation. A torsion ballista (each arm separately tensioned) will be considered the same, despite the construction differences and variance in physics utilised to operate these devices.
	;Cannon		;Cannon[[File:cannon.png \|150px\| frame]]
	:A device designed to deliver most commonly a rock or steel ball via an explosive charge from a propellent (black powder or equivalent) aimed directly at the "enemy". It should be noted that cannons or replicas of cannons are currently banned in the Society rules.		:A device designed to deliver most commonly a rock or steel ball via an explosive charge from a propellent (black powder or equivalent) aimed directly at the "enemy". It should be noted that cannons or replicas of cannons are currently banned in the Society rules.
	;Catapult		;Catapult[[File:catapult.png \|150px\| frame]]
	:A device for forcefully propelling stones, spears, or other projectiles, by means of a wooden arm bent under tension and suddenly released to fire (see image) except for a counterweighted variation (see trebuchet below).		:A device for forcefully propelling stones, spears, or other projectiles, by means of a wooden arm bent under tension and suddenly released to fire (see image) except for a counterweighted variation (see trebuchet below).

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	{{DISPLAYTITLE:Primer to ~~Siege Combat~~ in Lochac}}		{{DISPLAYTITLE:Primer to siege combat in Lochac}}
	==Introduction==		==Introduction==
	This document is intended to complement the SCA Society Siege combat rules and should be read when planning for siege combat in the Kingdom of Lochac.		This document is intended to complement the SCA Society Siege combat rules and should be read when planning for siege combat in the Kingdom of Lochac.