Armoured Combat notes:Armour requirements - Revision history

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	==Shields==		==Shields==
	;Pavises - 2008		;Pavises - 2008
	:A Society rule change in 2008 included construction standards for pavises. Other rules were added with regards to their [[Armoured_Combat:~~The_Use_of_Weapons_and_Shields~~#Shields\|use]], and [[Armoured_Combat:~~Target_Areas_and_Acknowledgement_of_Blows~~#Effects_of_missile_weapons\|effect of missile weapons]]		:A Society rule change in 2008 included construction standards for pavises. Other rules were added with regards to their [[Armoured_Combat:The_use_of_weapons_and_shields#Shields\|use]], and [[Armoured_Combat:Target_areas_and_acknowledgement_of_blows#Effects_of_missile_weapons\|effect of missile weapons]]

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	;Hand protection for those using throwing weapons - 2008		;Hand protection for those using throwing weapons - 2008
	:A Society rule update in 2008 allowed those using throwing weapons to also use the same hand protection as combat archers and siege engineers.		:A Society rule update in 2008 allowed those using throwing weapons to also use the same hand protection as combat archers and siege engineers.

			;Side-strapped shields with shield baskets are equivalent hand protection - July 2024
			:Society rules were clarified in October 2023 to specify that the only shields that can be used as equivalent hand protection are side-strapped shields with shield baskets or equivalent. There was some ambiguity around centre-grip shields.

	==Arm==		==Arm==

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	==Body==		==Body==
			;Removal on prohibition on floating breast cups - July 2024
			:The prohibition on separate breast cups for chest protection was removed from Society armoured combat rules in October 2023. The rule was not needed for safety issues, and was originally intended to dissuade "fantasy" armour styles. The rule also created some ambiguity around other acceptable armour styles such as lamellar, scale, or small plate armour.

	;Zoombang - April 2022		;Zoombang - April 2022
	:Zoombang is now only considered equivalent padding to 6mm closed cell foam. It is no longer considered to be the the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam for the purposes of kidney protection.		:Zoombang is now only considered equivalent padding to 6mm closed cell foam. It is no longer considered to be the the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam for the purposes of kidney protection.

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	== Groin ==		== Groin ==
			;Groin armour - July 2024
			:The requirement for people without testicles to wear groin protection was removed from Society armoured combat rules in October 2023. Research by medical personnel has not found data to support the need for rigid groin protection for those without testicles, even for high contact sports or similar activities. The wording reflects input from the DEIA community to accommodate variations. The potential for permanent life-changing injury due to testicular trauma is why groin protection is required.
	;Groin armour - Oct 2018		;Groin armour - Oct 2018
	:Society rule update - The groin must be protected to a standard equivalent to that provided by an athletic cup or pubic protector, secured by straps, or worn in a supporter or fighting garment designed to hold the protection in place.		:Society rule update - The groin must be protected to a standard equivalent to that provided by an athletic cup or pubic protector, secured by straps, or worn in a supporter or fighting garment designed to hold the protection in place.

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	==Body==		==Body==
	;Zoombang is equivalent for kidney protection - August 2014		;Zoombang - April 2022
			:Zoombang is now only considered equivalent padding to 6mm closed cell foam. It is no longer considered to be the the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam for the purposes of kidney protection.

			;REVOKED - Zoombang is equivalent for kidney protection - August 2014
	:Viscoelastic polymers (i.e. Zoombang) can be considered the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam. Note this does not make Zoombang equivalent to rigid material. So where our rules require rigid protection, Zoombang is not sufficient by itself.		:Viscoelastic polymers (i.e. Zoombang) can be considered the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam. Note this does not make Zoombang equivalent to rigid material. So where our rules require rigid protection, Zoombang is not sufficient by itself.
	:Like all armour, it also needs to cover the required area. If the Zoombang pads do not cover the combatant's kidneys, then they cannot claim it as their sole kidney protection. This is specifically relevant for those who wear Zoombang shirts that are not designed as custom fit garments.		:Like all armour, it also needs to cover the required area. If the Zoombang pads do not cover the combatant's kidneys, then they cannot claim it as their sole kidney protection. This is specifically relevant for those who wear Zoombang shirts that are not designed as custom fit garments.
	~~;Note (April 2022) this has been removed from being equivalent to both padding and heavy leather, and is equivalent to padding only.~~

	;Kidney protection requires padding - July 2021		;Kidney protection requires padding - July 2021

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	:Viscoelastic polymers (i.e. Zoombang) can be considered the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam. Note this does not make Zoombang equivalent to rigid material. So where our rules require rigid protection, Zoombang is not sufficient by itself.		:Viscoelastic polymers (i.e. Zoombang) can be considered the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam. Note this does not make Zoombang equivalent to rigid material. So where our rules require rigid protection, Zoombang is not sufficient by itself.
	:Like all armour, it also needs to cover the required area. If the Zoombang pads do not cover the combatant's kidneys, then they cannot claim it as their sole kidney protection. This is specifically relevant for those who wear Zoombang shirts that are not designed as custom fit garments.		:Like all armour, it also needs to cover the required area. If the Zoombang pads do not cover the combatant's kidneys, then they cannot claim it as their sole kidney protection. This is specifically relevant for those who wear Zoombang shirts that are not designed as custom fit garments.
	;Note (April 2022: this has been removed from being equivalent to both padding and heavy leather, and is equivalent to padding only.		;Note (April 2022) this has been removed from being equivalent to both padding and heavy leather, and is equivalent to padding only.

	;Kidney protection requires padding - July 2021		;Kidney protection requires padding - July 2021

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	:Viscoelastic polymers (i.e. Zoombang) can be considered the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam. Note this does not make Zoombang equivalent to rigid material. So where our rules require rigid protection, Zoombang is not sufficient by itself.		:Viscoelastic polymers (i.e. Zoombang) can be considered the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam. Note this does not make Zoombang equivalent to rigid material. So where our rules require rigid protection, Zoombang is not sufficient by itself.
	:Like all armour, it also needs to cover the required area. If the Zoombang pads do not cover the combatant's kidneys, then they cannot claim it as their sole kidney protection. This is specifically relevant for those who wear Zoombang shirts that are not designed as custom fit garments.		:Like all armour, it also needs to cover the required area. If the Zoombang pads do not cover the combatant's kidneys, then they cannot claim it as their sole kidney protection. This is specifically relevant for those who wear Zoombang shirts that are not designed as custom fit garments.
			;Note (April 2022: this has been removed from being equivalent to both padding and heavy leather, and is equivalent to padding only.

	;Kidney protection requires padding - July 2021		;Kidney protection requires padding - July 2021

Angele at 10:00, 9 July 2021

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	{{DISPLAYTITLE:Notes - Armour requirements}}		{{DISPLAYTITLE:Notes - Armour requirements}}
			==Responsibilities==
			;Training and pickups require inspections - July 2021
			:Combat at official trainings and pickups at events are still combat that must follow these rules. There is no unofficial combat at events, there is only unscheduled combat.
			;Requirement to disguise, cover or remove modern corporate logos and sports gear, unless the gear is necessary for medical reasons - July 2021
			:We missed a past Society rules update that required logos and sport gear to be hidden.

	== Head ==		== Head ==
			;Helm construction techniques - July 2021
			:The method of construction must be taken into account when constructing a helm. Some construction techniques, such as doming, sinking, spinning or excessive grinding of the skull of the helm, reduce the thickness of the metal. If these construction techniques are used, the top should be made from a minimum of 2.0mm (14 gauge) steel, so that the completed product is not less than 1.6mm (16 gauge).

	;Underside of the chin; - September 2017		;Underside of the chin; - September 2017
	:It is strongly recommended that the underside of the jaw be protected from a low-profile thrusting tip - Jon Dai of the Lane		:It is strongly recommended that the underside of the jaw be protected from a low-profile thrusting tip - Jon Dai of the Lane
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	:Mesh is not required to fill the skull holes on Vendal style helmets. As with all armour, the design is to prevent traumatic and unrecoverable injury, pain however is up to the tolerance level of the individual and what level they are willing to accept. - Jarl Niall		:Mesh is not required to fill the skull holes on Vendal style helmets. As with all armour, the design is to prevent traumatic and unrecoverable injury, pain however is up to the tolerance level of the individual and what level they are willing to accept. - Jarl Niall

	;Additional mesh types~~'''~~ - June 2019		;Additional mesh types - June 2019
	:Materials that meet the standard for face protection during rapier combat are suitable to protect the face from arrows. - Angele de Savigny		:Materials that meet the standard for face protection during rapier combat are suitable to protect the face from arrows. - Angele de Savigny

			;Maille as mesh - July 2021
			:Maille used as mesh needs to meet the same standards as mesh, and cannot have openings greater than 5mm.

			;Mesh attachment - July 2021
			:After seeing too many people's mesh piked up off their helmets, the requirement for mesh to be secured against vertical movement as well as side to side movement was added.

	;Crimsafe - November 2004:		;Crimsafe - November 2004:
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	:Viscoelastic polymers (i.e. Zoombang) can be considered the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam. Note this does not make Zoombang equivalent to rigid material. So where our rules require rigid protection, Zoombang is not sufficient by itself.		:Viscoelastic polymers (i.e. Zoombang) can be considered the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam. Note this does not make Zoombang equivalent to rigid material. So where our rules require rigid protection, Zoombang is not sufficient by itself.
	:Like all armour, it also needs to cover the required area. If the Zoombang pads do not cover the combatant's kidneys, then they cannot claim it as their sole kidney protection. This is specifically relevant for those who wear Zoombang shirts that are not designed as custom fit garments.		:Like all armour, it also needs to cover the required area. If the Zoombang pads do not cover the combatant's kidneys, then they cannot claim it as their sole kidney protection. This is specifically relevant for those who wear Zoombang shirts that are not designed as custom fit garments.

			;Kidney protection requires padding - July 2021
			:Following some online discussion, the Society Armored Combat Marshal clarified that all kidney protection must have padding equivalent to 6mm of closed cell foam, though Zoombang still meets this standard.

	== Groin ==		== Groin ==

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	;Zoombang is equivalent for kidney protection - August 2014		;Zoombang is equivalent for kidney protection - August 2014
	:Viscoelastic polymers (i.e. Zoombang) can be considered the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam. Note this does not make Zoombang equivalent to rigid material. So where our rules require rigid protection, Zoombang is not sufficient by itself.		:Viscoelastic polymers (i.e. Zoombang) can be considered the equivalent of heavy leather worn over .25 inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam. Note this does not make Zoombang equivalent to rigid material. So where our rules require rigid protection, Zoombang is not sufficient by itself.
	Like all armour it also needs to cover the required area. If the Zoombang pads do not cover the combatant's kidneys then they cannot claim it as their sole kidney protection. This is specifically relevant for those who wear Zoombang shirts that are not designed as custom fit garments.		:Like all armour, it also needs to cover the required area. If the Zoombang pads do not cover the combatant's kidneys, then they cannot claim it as their sole kidney protection. This is specifically relevant for those who wear Zoombang shirts that are not designed as custom fit garments.

	== Groin ==		== Groin ==